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Post subject: Post Season Scheduling  PostPosted: Oct 27, 2009 - 12:35 PM



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Is anyone else losing the will to live due to the length of time the post season is taking?

On this day in 1996 the Yankees won the WS in game 6 against the Braves Crying or Very sad yet we don’t even start this year until tomorrow. I believe the Angels played their last 9 games over the course of 21 days. I know that the WBC delayed the start of the regular season by a few days, you can’t account for series sweeps either but during a series the only off days should be the travel days. It doesn’t help the players either, too many off days and they lose there rhythm. As seen in last years WS the late start naturally increases the chances of weather disruption.

The sad fact is that TV and all its money has dictated that the series schedules are set in stone.

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Post subject: RE: Post Season Scheduling  PostPosted: Oct 27, 2009 - 12:39 PM



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I hate the amount of off days we've had and the move of the WS moving back as not to clash with SNF - although NBC aren't showing a SNF this week anyway!

Why can't they start start the next series a day after the match-up is confirmed?

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Post subject: Re: Post Season Scheduling  PostPosted: Oct 27, 2009 - 01:59 PM



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Alex_the_Brave wrote:
during a series the only off days should be the travel days.


I agree with that. It really annoys me that the TV schedules these extra off-days to stretch out the series as long as possible.

There's also the weather to consider. We'll be well into November if this series goes 7 games which is odd for a supposedly summer game. The game doesnn't look the same in the freezing cold, when Robinson Cano wears a balalcava!
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: Post Season Scheduling  PostPosted: Oct 27, 2009 - 02:25 PM



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I agree with all your sentiments guys. Having said that, MLB has a way to go for its post-season to be as long drawn-out and ludicrous as the ice hockey and basketball post-seasons. It sometimes feels like every team in both those sports makes it through to the post-season.

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You beat me to this Topic ATB!

From June the 2nd through to through to the end of the season the Angels had 12 off days and played 113 games.

During the Postseason the Angels had 12 off days and had played 8 games before game 6 of the ALCS. So it ended up being 9 games in 21 days but that isn’t much better.

These players are playing almost every day and when it comes down to the most important time of the season this stops happening. Most players won’t admit to this having an affect on them but it must do even with the added edge playoff baseball gives you. It also means you don’t need to have as deep a pitching staff as all the key pitchers in the bullpen will get enough time off as well as you only needing 3 starters rather than the 5 you have to use during the regular season.
 
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4668918

Selig must have been reading this thread

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Alex_the_Brave wrote:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4668918

Selig must have been reading this thread


It is good that they are taking notice of what the fans, players and managers want to happen and not allowing TV to make all the decisions.
 
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The first change of postseason scheduling has been made with the LCS series all being cut down as the off day between games four and five has been removed. It’s a start to improving the playoffs and there is talk of possibly more changes. Here is the article from mlb.com:

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Wednesday's announced condensing of each League Championship Series by one off-day may be just the beginning of a formative shift in the entire playoff schedule.

"This is a first step," Angels manager Mike Scioscia told MLB.com before his club played the Royals in a Cactus League game at Tempe Diablo Stadium. "I think it's an important first step and could lead to a really good [postseason] format eventually."

On the docket is a probable expansion of each of the four Division Series from a best-of-five to a best-of-seven format. That will have to be collectively bargained between the owners and the Major League Baseball Players Association when a new Basic Agreement is negotiated next year. The current agreement expires on Dec. 11, 2011.

The playoff scheduling changes were born from a special committee - formed by Commissioner Bud Selig -- dealing with on-field issues, which has met several times already this year. Scioscia is one of four veteran managers on the 14-man committee, joining Joe Torre of the Dodgers, Jim Leyland of the Tigers and Tony La Russa of the Cardinals.

"That's obviously something we talked about," Scioscia said about expanding the first round to seven games. "There's some complications there in scheduling, but it's definitely being considered."

The union is in favor of that concept, Michael Weiner, the new executive director, said upon his election to replace Don Fehr late last year.

"There is a lot of sentiment for a seven-game Division Series," Weiner said. "I think a properly constructed postseason schedule could accommodate three seven-game series, but still have it extend over a shorter period of time than what happened [last] year."

The three playoff rounds last year were played over the course of four weeks from Oct. 7 to Nov. 4. The LCS expanded from a best-of-five to a best-of-seven format in 1985, and the LDS was added a decade later.

Selig announced on Wednesday that the schedules for the 2010 American League and National League Championship Series have been shortened by eliminating an off-day between Games 4 and 5.

"It is a lot of off days," said Yankees manager Joe Girardi. "It worked out well for us, but it is a lot of off days and players like continuity. You think about you work all year long to try to prove who's the best team, and it's good with me."

The off-day was added after rain washed out both travel days in the 2006 NLCS, won by the eventual World Series champion Cardinals over the Mets in seven games. It hasn't been needed since then.

At the same time, a travel day was added between possible Games 4 and 5 of the LDS. But there hasn't been a five-game first-round series since then. The World Series was also pushed back four days from a Saturday night start to a Wednesday night start to accommodate an optimum television schedule. Both of those alterations remain in place.

"Scheduling is a key area in which the members have expressed many interesting ideas and opinions," Selig said in a statement. "The removal of the off-day during both League Championship Series marks the first step in a process that will ultimately result in an improved postseason format for our game."

Scioscia expressed his qualms with the old format both in public and in a long private telephone call with Selig, during and after his Angels' rain-delayed six-game ALCS loss to the Yankees this past October that took 10 days to play. The Yankees went on to defeat the Phillies in a six-game World Series.

"It changes everything," Scioscia said then about the four open days in the series that followed a five-day break between the end of their ALDS and the start of the ALCS. "It's hard to get any continuity with a schedule like this. You play all season with five starters, then you get to the postseason and need only two or three. It penalizes teams with depth."

Charlie Manuel, who managed his Phillies to a five-game, rain-swamped and delayed World Series victory over the Rays in 2008, said on Wednesday that he was ambivalent about contracting the postseason schedule.

"Does it matter to me?" he said. "It depends on what kind of pitching we have when we get there. It depends how we can swing our pitching. If we can still stay strong with our pitching, yeah. If not, I don't think so."

The schedule is already established for this year's postseason, with three Division Series games opening the playoffs on Wednesday, Oct. 6. Game 1 of the ALCS is scheduled to take place on Friday, Oct. 15, and Game 1 of the NLCS scheduled for the next day. The first game of the World Series is slated for Wednesday, Oct. 27.

For the second consecutive year and third time in baseball history, the World Series will end in November.

"We've talked about [the best-of-seven] first round," Selig said during the owners' meetings in Paradise Valley, Ariz., this past January. "The problem is everybody wants to talk about us going into November and then they want to add to the schedule."

Owners are against shortening the regular season back from 162 games to the original 154, Selig has said. That would shorten the season by a week and make room for an extended postseason format that could include another Wild Card team in each league, plus a short play-in round.
 
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